SOM PVE Frequently Asked Questions
Got a question related to Raids, Dungeons or PvE in general? Chances are it is already answered in here!
PLAYER VERSUS ENVIRONMENT
Do spells snapshot?
All spells snapshot internal modifiers (things that increase your damage done) such as PI, TOEP, Elixirs, etc, when the spell finishes casting. Only life-leeching spells (Siphon Life and Drain Life) snapshot on external modifiers (things that increase the target's damage taken) such as Shadow Weaving, Improved Shadowbolt, Nightfall (the axe), Curse of Shadows.
Command: !snapshot
When should I use ShadowBurn?
Against popular belief, Shadowburn should NOT be used in raids unless as a finisher.
The reason is that even though shadowburn does more DPS than Shadow Bolt does (until roughly 2k SP which you can not reach ingame).
It lowers ISB upkeep. And it lowers ISB upkeep enough to a point that makes it a net DPS loss always especially raid-wide.
The other factor that currently is being revealed is that Shadowburn is knocking off a lot of essential Debuffs like Winter's Chill, Corruption, CoA, and many more.
TL;DR:
- Lowers ISB upkeep.
- Overwrites essential debuffs.
- Fine to use as a finisher
Command: !shadowburn
What should I do at Loatheb?
The following is an in-depth Loatheb guide: https://royalgiraffe.github.io/loatheb#warlock
Command: !loatheb
How does Resistance and Spell Pen work?
The following is an in-depth Loatheb guide:https://royalgiraffe.github.io/resist-guide
Command: !resist
How do I prevent getting counterspelled by Shazzrah?
Shazzrah's counterspell is casted in a frontal 180° cone. To prevent being counterspelled stand behind him and or 36yard or further away from the boss to outrange his spell. Note that the encounter for Shazzrah has changed in Season of Mastery! Instead of a single teleport, Shazzrah now casts a mirror image of himself at the place he teleported to. This mirror image will spam counterspell.
Note: Be aware of his teleport.
Command: !shazz
GEAR
What gear should I get?
If you are still leveling, use !lvlgear.
If you are at max level or nearly-so:
• PVE
• PVP
Command: !gearchoice
When should I break Bloodvine?
For a pure DPS you need 2 of T3 chest, Leggings of Polarity OR Fel Infused Leggings, T3 boots. It can be broken earlier for survivability/professions/looks reasons using a combination of those options, T3 legs, Garb of Royal Ascension, Boots of Epiphany. 5/5 2.5 is also very close to bloodvine on longer fights with the added benefit of increasing your mana efficiency in situations where you won't be getting as much attention from your healers.
Command: !breakbv
When do I use doomcaller?
Bloodvine with the tailoring set bonus always beats 5/5 doomcaller, no matter the fight length. Without tailoring, bloodvine wins on short fights but on long fights where you have to life tap multiple times 5/5 doomcaller will edge it out (only applies to fights with high uptime, on twin emperors for example you can life tap without losing damage while running to swap sides). Overall this makes the set bonus pretty niche. That being said, the set has much higher survivability compared to bloodvine and less life taps make things easier on your healers. This makes it a solid choice for a set to run for week one naxx progression, as well as being solid for trash and guilds with longer/less clean boss fights
Command: !doomcaller
What useful items drop in DireMaul?
- Felcloth Gloves
- Tempest Talisman
- Amplifying Cloak
- Stoneflower Staff
- Blade of the New Moon
- Fluctuating Cloak (has a random bonus, but wowhead only lists resistance)
- Brightspark Gloves
- Mind Carver
- Heliotrope Cloak
- Sublime Wristguards
- Crown of the Ogre King
- Rod of the Ogre Magi
- Royal Seal of Eldre'thalas (Harnessing Shadows book)
Command: !dmgear
Is the AV ring any good?
The AV spell pen ring is zero value in PvE outside of Luci and Gehennas.
Command: !rodrigo
Do I need Spell Pen?
Lucifron, Gehennas, and Kel'Thuzad have shadow resistance, all other bosses have 0. Every boss has 24 "level-based resistance" that will always cause partials and cannot be removed by spell penetration. Kel'Thuzad has 100, so 25 spell pen is the cap with Curse of Shadows. See the pins in era-pve-and-food for more details
Command: !pen
Is Talisman of Ascendance worth it?
Not only is it worse than ToEP and ZHC but it’s also absurdly expensive and time-consuming. Don't try to get it unless you love pain and suffering
Command: !toa
How good is ZHC?
See this document for an in-depth breakdown.
Command: !zhc
How good is Seal of the Damned?
With world buffs Band of the Inevitable is slightly better, without world buffs Damned is slightly better
if half of the warlocks die or if you lose songflower but still have all others else they're about the same. Damned has 17 stam while inevitable has 0 stam, so the survivability may make it more appealing. At the end of the day both are good, just take whichever you want more or whichever drops first.
Command: !damned
Should I be trinket swapping?
Trinket swapping is actively changing out trinkets that are on (full) cooldown.
A trinket on a cooldown doesn't give you any utility and is a wasted gear slot.
• Swapping to another active trinket causes to trigger another small CD the duration of the previously equipped trinkets effect. (Ex.: black book -> ToEP is 30 and ToEP -> black book is 15)
• The game puts ACTIVE and GUARDIAN trinkets on separate shared CD. (Ex.: ToEP doesn't cause a CD on Barov)
Command: !trinketswap
Is there a list of guardian trinkets?
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║ ITEM ║ DURATION ║ CD ║
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║ Arcanite Dragonling ║ 1m ║ 1h ║
║ Gnomish Battle Chicken ║ 2m ║ 30m ║
║ Goblin Bomb ║ ║ 30m ║
║ Ancient Cornerstone Grimoire ║ 1m ║ 15m ║
║ Book of the Dead ║ 1m ║ 15m ║
║ Compact Harvest Reaper ║ 10m ║ 10m ║
║ Dog Whistle ║ 10m ║ 10m ║
║ Defender of the Timbermaw ║ 40s ║ 10m ║
║ Barov Peasant Caller ║ 20s ║ 10m ║
║ Cannonball Runner ║ 10s ║ 5m ║
║ Vanquished Tentacle of C'Thun ║ 30s ║ 3m ║
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Command: !guardiantrinket
Is there a list of useful active trinkets?
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║ ITEM ║ DURATION ║ CD ║
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║ Burst of Knowledge ║ 10s ║ 15m ║
║ The Black Book ║ 30s ║ 5m ║
║ Eye of Moam ║ 30s ║ 3m ║
║ Fetish of the Sand Reaver ║ 20s ║ 3m ║
║ Eye of Diminution ║ 20s ║ 2m ║
║ The Restrained Essence of Sapphiron ║ 20s ║ 2m ║
║ Zandalarian Hero Charm ║ 20s ║ 2m ║
║ Talisman of Ephemeral Power ║ 15s ║ 1.5m ║
║ Draconic Infused Emblem ║ 15s ║ 1.25m ║
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Command: !activetrinket
What mats do I need in order to craft T3?
Helm: 3x Mooncloth, 3x Nexus Crystal, x15 Wartorn Cloth Scrap
Shoulders: 2x Mooncloth, 3x Cured Rugged Hide, x12 Wartorn Cloth Scrap
Chest: 4x Mooncloth, 2x Nexus Crystal, x25 Wartorn Cloth Scrap
Wrist: 1x Arcane Crystal, 1x Nexus Crystal, x6 Wartorn Cloth Scrap
Hands: 4x Mooncloth, 8x Wartorn Cloth Scrap
Belt: 2x Mooncloth, 2x Arcane Crystal, 8x Wartorn Cloth Scrap
Legs: 4x Mooncloth, 2x Nexus Crystal, 20x Wartorn Cloth Scrap
Boots: 2x Mooncloth, 3x Cured Rugged Hide, 12x Wartorn Cloth Scrap
Ring: Drop only
Total: x21 Mooncloth, x8 Nexus Crystal, x6 Cured Rugged Hide, x3 Arcane Crystal, x106 Wartorn Cloth Scraps
Command: !t3
What are the different Spell School Wand options?
FIRE
• Crimson Shocker 73.25 DPS
• Torch of Austen 56.79 DPS
ARCANE
• Essence Gatherer 85.36 DPS
• Bonecreeper Stylus 62.63 DPS
• Wand of Arcane Potency 58.44 DPS
FROST
• Cold Snap 85.29 DPS
• Wand of Biting Cold 64 DPS
• Mana Channeling Wand 60.94 DPS
NATURE
• Stormrager 62.69 DPS
• Rod of Corrosion 55 DPS
Command: !wand
RESISTANCE
Do I need Nature resistance for Huhuran?
Shouldn't need any for huhuran unless you have a very strange raid composition, should probably get some for viscidus considering there isn't any downside in wearing it (and viscidus is kinda spooky on classic ngl)
Command: !nr
How much frost resistance gear do I need?
See this document for an in-depth guide: https://bittsguides.com/frost-resistance-gear-naxxramas/?amp=1
Command: !frost
How much Shadow Resistance do I need to tank the Twins?
See this document for an indepth guide: Warlock Twin Emperor Tank Gearing Guide
Command: !sr
Does Curse of Tongues work on Naxxramas Acolytes?
No it does not. Source
What materials do we need for our tier three set?
See here
Why does the Twin Emperor Caster run up to me?
Every incident that causes him to not be able to cast his spell has a chance to result in this.
This includes but is not limited to:
- Warlock going out of range and back in
- Hunter pet or warrior tank getting initial threat and moving before warlock gets threat
- Warrior entering hitbox resulting in not being able to cast
- Boss trying to cast Blizzard out of range.
What Idols in AQ do we need?
- Jasper Idol = AQ20 ring (not really contested)
- Idol of Death = T2.5 helm (probably contested)
- Idol of the Sage = T2.5 shoulders (contested)
What loot from ZG is good for us?
- CLOAK: Cloak of Consumption (Hakkar): 10 int, 23 sp, 1 hit
- HELM: Hexxer's Cover (Jin'do): 10 stam, 10 int, 41 sp
- OFFHAND: Jin'do's Bag of Whammies (Jin'do): 8 stam, 11 int, 18 sp, 1 hit
- RINGS: Zanzil's Seal + Zanzil's Band (Mandokir + Venoxis): 10 stam 23 int 17 sp 3 hit (with set bonus)
- TRINKET: Zandalarian Hero Charm (Hakkar): Use-effect similar to toep
- BOOTS: Betrayer's Boots (Thekal): 8 stam 12 int 30 sp
- WAND: Touch of Chaos (Hakkar): 18 sp
- ENCHANTMENT (leg/helm): Hoodoo Hex (quest - various boss drops): 10 stam 18 sp
- ENCHANTMENT (shoulder): Zandalar Signet of Mojo (quest - trash drops): 18 sp
Does Deathrbinger consume ISB charges?
No it does not.
What are the different Spell School Wand options?
FIRE
• Crimson Shocker 73.25 DPS
• Torch of Austen 56.79 DPS
ARCANE
• Essence Gatherer 85.36 DPS
• Bonecreeper Stylus 62.63 DPS
• Wand of Arcane Potency 58.44 DPS
FROST
• Cold Snap 85.29 DPS
• Wand of Biting Cold 64 DPS
• Mana Channeling Wand 60.94 DPS
NATURE
• Stormrager 62.69 DPS
• Rod of Corrosion 55 DPS